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You’re being taken for a ride. At least this is what many libertarians like Ron Paul believe when they see someone like Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin trying to lead the Tea Party at the “restoring honor” rally this weekend. In fact, Ron Paul believes, if you’re looking for real freedom, you should really go back to the core of the constitution and the bill of rights, which Beck and Palin do not fully endorse when you really look at their beliefs. Whether it be Palin’s support for starting more wars or Beck’s beliefs on paying the private Federal Reserve MORE interest on our money by means of a VAT tax. Ron Paul believes in neither of the above. Here was Ron Paul’s message to the Tea Party via The New York Times just the other day: “As many frustrated Americans who have joined the Tea Party realize, we cannot stand against big government at home while supporting it abroad. We cannot talk about fiscal responsibility while spending trillions on occupying and bullying the rest of the world. We cannot talk about the budget deficit and spiraling domestic spending without looking at the costs of maintaining an American empire of more than 700 military bases in more than 120 foreign countries. We cannot pat ourselves on the back for cutting a few thousand dollars from a nature preserve or an inner-city swimming pool at home while turning a blind eye to a Pentagon budget that nearly equals those of the rest of the world combined.” While the Tea Party will be out supporting Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin this weekend, you wonder how many of them will be in full support of more wars and paying more interest to a group of untouchable and unauditable private bankers otherwise known as the FED? This is precisely what Ron Paul is asking the American public to consider when looking at the Tea Party leaders and see if they really stand for what they believe in. Ron Paul believes the Tea Party is not about “left” or “right” like a lot of political pundits make it out to be. It’s about the constitution, and limited government. |
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Ron Paul’s Shocking Message To The Tea Party
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Ron Paul is the Tea Party founder and the voice of reason, we should listen! If the Tea Party can send an anti-war message they would be unstoppable…
Ron Paul is not the founder of the Tea Party. It was started by Liberty Belle from Seattle Wa.
December 16, 2007:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvGS12EoZUE
Ron Paul Tea Party
The author of this story doesn’t get it.The described movement (re: Beck) is NOT about the Tea Party movement. It is about Americanism, as described by the founders. Nowhere does the Beck movement WANT 700 bases. (Where is it spelled out in the Constitution). The author is purposely misleading the reader into thinking they are the one in the same). The tea party is a movement in and of itself and should NOT be confused with Restoring Honor. ANY such confusion is DELIBERATE and INTENTIONAL! It sounds like Digital Meeting Center is another SOROS sponsored web site!
Actually Beck DOES support these wars, he always has. He opposes the mosque with NO constitutional basis. Giving in to the same emotional governing pleas that the left does…”but it hurts the families feelings…” Forget that it is a mockery of our constitution to tell them no for that reason.
Paul did found the Tea Party, and he is opposed to many tyranical government positions the Republicans hold…to include Beck and especially Palin.
Not to mention, beck has never endorsed a VAT tax. In fact he said it’s a bad idea, and it’s coming whether we like it or not. But that isn’t an endorsement. This article doesn’t deserve to be in any spotlight, it’s obviously anti beck/Paul/palin, even if the author has to take his readers for a ride, apparently that doesn’t matter.
I to am no longer a fan of Glenn. It was amazing to see the crowd he can draw.
Mr. Glenn had many cards to play from. He chose the God card. The same card our enemies are playing.
Now it will be my god can beat up your god.
Will the Real God please Stand-Up?
Who benefits from this?
With the crowd, cameras and the World watching he could have played the Constitution Card or how about END the FED CARD and WHY.
He could have struck at the very ROOT of our problem, “The Federal Reserve System” and “FIAT” money.
He did not even strike at the branches.
You wonder why people are turning away. It is sad. Just sad. A waste.
We are being played.
In Liberty,
Tom Rankin
C4Lsheepdog
985/438-6798
“Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.” –Michael Rivero
What ever happened to Judeo-Christian America? I really think Glen Beck is personable and I’ll take him over O’Reilly any day,but he is a Mormon. A Moron who thinks he is going to be a god of his own planet, have eternal sex and populate the heavens. He thinks the angel Moroni delivered his sex manual-the book of Mormon-on golden tablets. He says he loves Jesus,yet Mormons believe Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. Does that mean he loves Lucifer too? What’s up with that?
Regina, I assume you believe in an invisible God yourself? One whom you eat his body and drink his blood? One that you aspire to meet one day when you die and float on up to heaven? Pot, meet Kettle. Your belief, like any other that relies on “faith”, is delusional.
Beck is a globalist schill and protector of the 9/11 false flag attack. He will lead the ignorant neo-con sheep to the NWO slaughter. ” The C.I.A. owns anyone of any importance in the major media”. William Colby, former directer C.I.A.
You have not been listening very well when Beck is talking, he is anti constitution and if you think he is on the side of the founders, you need to read Adams,Washington and Jefferson, and read it well, so you fully understand their wishes for this country. Remember Beck is motivated by GREED and he is ignorant./
Tea Parties? Bah Humbug…..time to throw some noose tying parties, maybe erect a guillotine or three on the lawns of The White House, The Pentagon and every 50yds along Wall St…. Tea Parties, isnt that what little girls play with their plastic tea sets? Take a teaspoon of cement America and harden the fuck up!!
There ta go! That’s what we need! Someone on a political blog advocating the murder of people that don’t agree with him! Finally a righty saying what he really thinks!
“advocating the murder of people that don’t agree” – isn’t that the essence of gunvernment?
Anarchy ≠ Chaos – just look around you, anarchy is working great!
Oh are you hard enough to walk up to the white house with a guillotine and start decapitating some heads or are you just going to go back and play with your plastic tea set. Stop watching so much TV, movies. Your comment was kind of funny but dont you think if you took a guillotine to the white house you’d get shot in the head? You can’t fight the Government with weapons, if you think you have weapons just think how many different kinds of weapons they have. Nice comment though i feel your rage but lets get realistic, and no im not a tea partyer im not even from USA im European.
Hahahaha. YES!
Eventually, it will come to that. The government and the elitists of the world are not just going to give the world back to us. It will need to be fought for, and not just in political offices. I’m not a righty or a lefty, or affiliated with any party for that matter. I’m a human being that sees the evil in the world and I refuse to sit idly by and let it happen. Every one of you that pick and prod at one another for being a Republican/Democrat are not helping. You’re making it worse. They want us separated from one another. They want us arguing back and forth. They don’t want a well-informed, cohesive public, because if that were the case we’d all go stand in front of the White House and take it back with non-violent protest. They can’t shoot all of us. And perhaps you should all reread the Declaration of Independence: “Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
I’m at a loss, did this guy pull these “beliefs” of Beck and Palin out of the air because I’ve never heard them support anything like what’s being attributed to them?
This article sounds more like some nymph on someones shoulder trying to sew seeds of discontent and distrust among like minded people. The author is definitely putting words in Ron’s mouth.
Ron Paul for President 2012!
The Time has come, Give Peace a chance!
End The Fed
Restore the Republic
Legalize Freedom
Ron Paul Revolution 2012!
Yes Kdub! I am in 1000 percent agreement.
I can not endorse Palin OR Beck. No no no no no no no!!! For the very reason Paul mentions in this article and more!
Nor shall I. I can’t. Palin is a nice lady and all but in my gut she is not right for high office. And Beck is a great guy but he stops short of the truth at every turn of his words. He seems that he just won’t pull the trigger about World Government, Illuminati, Obama, etc. etc.
I like Ron Paul and I think he is a good man and is sincere, BUT, if he were elected the Fed would remain in place, and nothing major would change. Paul would throw a bone or two the electorates way, but the wealthy Republicans would get all of the meat, as he would not operate outside the confines of the glorious Republican party.
I’m not sure I agree.
If elected I’m sure he’d initiate an audit of the Fed and, if properly directed, the public outrage at the findings could be very powerful.
I voted for him and I supported his campaign with more cash than I could afford. I promoted him on blogs, in emails, and in person to everyone who would listen. I was pissed off when he was slighted by the media and the obviously rigged voting system, but I was even more pissed off that he “took it like a gentleman” (i.e., lying down) instead of fighting tooth and nail. I won’t go down that road again.
Were he, by some miracle, to achieve the presidency and effectively push for a true Fed audit, they would kill him. Can’t happen? The powers behind the Fed tried to kill Jackson, killed Lincoln, and killed JFK. This is nothing new for them. Any president who attempts to keep or return control of US money for or to our Constitutionally empowered Congress, faces untimely death. These are just a few of the better known names of mysterious victims who threatened to upset the privately controlled US financial apple cart.
As opposed to his voting record of the past 30 years of going against the Republican Party?
Nikolai, you know nothing. Who is paying you to spit this trite bullshit? Ron Paul only ran under the Republican party as he knew he couldn’t win as a Libertarian. The Fed WOULD be abolished, the IRS WOULD go away, and you would see some drastic changes so long as the elitists in the world don’t try to assassinate him. And the wealth is not owned by the Republicans. It’s owned by elitists that neither you or I have ever or will ever have the “privilege” of meeting.
I agree hundred percent!
It is to late.
The time is upon us NOW to give peace a chance through love of ourselves, each other, and respect to the Constitution.
If you wish to give it a shot and discover what that means, go to:
http://www.awakentoconsciousliving.com
Yeah right Ron. Everyone knows that the Tea Party is NO different from any other idiotic group of people who cintinues to always vote for the same two parties. The same too parties that are nothing but pawns of the corporate system. That corporate system is the one destroying this country. And unless the American people themselves start a revolution NOTHING is going to change for the better. Unlimited economics is as bad if not WORSE than unlimited government.
Asten, That’s the whole thing Ron Paul is the one of the only one’s that can’t be bought. With all due respect, please research “the man” and his voting record before passing judgement.
Only one? You may not agree with him but I don’t think anyone legitimately thinks Kucinich can be bought either. Those two and possibly Bernie Sanders, different as all their beliefs are, are possibly the only ones who can’t be bought and are truly fighting for what they believe in.
Astin. you site CORPORATIONS as the problem. Right and did you even have an idea what that means? YES the U.S. is the BIg BROTHER of all corporations. That’s right and if you have Obama as your CEO you are in deep doo doo. Understand that govt. is the PROBLEM and they have destryed the free market forever. They want to kill the economy systemically once and for all. Dr. Ron Paul is the only one that tells the truth about the leftist with their “Idiotic” leaders like “Nazi ” Pelosi and the pretenders on the right.If you kill the one message that is able to wakeup the people then you are correct.Nothing will change for the better,but things WILL change for the worse. Count on it.
The problem is corporations purchasing the government. Obama did not kill free trade. Corporations have pushed beyond free trade forcing legislation that mandates that people purchase their products and services. The criminal health care reform is a perfect example.
Why spend millions on advertising when you can pay a senator $100,000 and force Americans to buy your product.
Multinational corporations control the United States government and our legal system to their own benefit and profits. If corporations were forced out of government then government would shrink.
“The problem is corporations purchasing the government”.
Why does the government always get a free ride on “being purchased”? Who is more liable here? How about BOTH? The government is selling itself. And if you want to play, you have to pay. The government is a whore, and their business allies have become corporate welfare pigs.
That’s why big business always opposes tax cuts or tax relief…because they’re on corproate welfare, and they’ll be patted on the head and rewarded for their faithful opposition. That’s why quasi-government agencies and corporate welfare pigs oppose thing like amendments 60 and 61 and Proposition 101 in Colorado–to the tune of $5 MILLION, much of that tax money! That’s a drop in the bucket to what they’ll get in “rewards” later.
This isn’t one sided. Corporatism takes 2 to tango.
So far as I have seen Ron Paul is the only Politician who just tells it like it is.
He wants MORE oversight not less, he wants MORE accountability, and he wants LESS Government.
Asten, I do agree with Mark. Please research Paul’s solid voting record and give what he has to say a chance before placing judgement. His track record is truly solid and its amazing to hear a congressmen like him truly speak for what he believes in, which is protecting the constitutional rights of all Americas regardless of personal bias.
And he can spell!
Right you are Mark. He is one of the few if not the only one who has not been purchased by the corporate system or any other.
Mark, although Ron Paul MAY be a step in the right direction when compared to the other presidential candidates, he’s still not worthy of the job because he will not consider the possibility that the elements within the US govt perpetrated 911. And at this point in the game, anyone who not not open their eyes to that possibility cannot be considered the leader of the ‘free’ USofA (in my opinion). Before there is a full and televised investigation with ALL the facts, where people are executed for war crimes (like in the Nuremburg trials), the US will never have freedom again.
Jason, I agree that we must get a new investigation on 911 events. Most people won’t even consider that operatives within our own government had to be at the helm of that plan.
And most don’t research it at all. Ron Paul is playing it cool. He is for a new investigation; but with the majority of fools as voters, it would be political suicide to pursue the white house on that platform. It is so sad .
the country is over…..
Asten, you just confirmed and reiterated what Dr. Paul was saying.
But you see Asten, he believes in corporate rule. Deregulation of all business to do anything they please. The MARKET will assure us that they won’t be turning our rivers and lakes into poisonous sludge. The MARKET will assure that drugs that are deadly be taken off of the market, even though you’d never hear a story about deadly drugs because big pharma give our media so much money. Oh yeah, that’s already happening. His free-market world would resemble that of niger or somalia. Worthless government is even worse than even a bad government. he doesn’t believe in social security, medicare, medicaid, schip or tricare. once you are done being fodder for our corporations, you have no more use in paul’s government. food stamps for the poor or low cost housing. we’d have streets filled with beggars just like they do in third world countries. oh PULEESE GIVE US RON PAUL’S IDEAL GOVERNMENT!
If you actually LISTENED to Dr. Paul, you will see that he is for taking unnecessary responsibility away from the Federal Government and giving it back to the individual states, where it belongs.
Your sarcastic listing of HANDOUTS is EXACTLY what is ailing this country. You list them as if you are entitled to these things, that by depending on the government for every single situation in your life, you are fulfilling your responsibility as an American Citizen. Time for you to wake up. For each of the programs you listed, there is an agency, committee, watch-group created and charged with the task of monitoring the participants, maintaining the program’s status, and planning for its future. All of this done on the tax-payers dime, and inefficiently at that. All the red tape involved in such bureaucracy(s) creates a whirlpool for money, and actually helps to hinder and prohibit the benefits they’re supposed to provide….see Katrina, see Welfare abuse, see Wall St./current recession, white-collar crime/fraud, and on, and on. Personal responsibility did not make your list, when in fact it should be your mantra, your motto in life. It is very embarrassing to have a fellow American such as yourself declare in such a condescending and sarcastic fashion that a person with Ron Paul’s ideals and values is something akin to negative or unworthy traits to posess. Go out and do for your own self. And you should be ashamed to think the government is there to provide you with things, money, etc. for just being there. I don’t know how people like you live with yourself. Ridiculous.
Shelley, deregulation stimulates COMPETITION and helps SMALL BUSINESSES by LOWERING the COST TO ENTER THE MARKET (for a given product, service, etc.).
The common misconception among liberals is that somehow regulation makes monopolization and/or manipulation of a market MORE difficult, when in reality regulation only helps big businesses manipulate their respective markets because when you get down to the balance sheets, regulation essentially adds OVERHEAD to a business.
As most small business owners could tell you (myself being one), it is far easier for a LARGE, CENTRALLY MANAGED Corporation to operate with higher overhead costs, because their streams of REVENUE are typically larger and the overhead is consolidated (i.e. each branch’s overhead is incrementally lower than a Mom & Pop store doing the same thing, since all of those branches have central corporate functions that they share rather than each branch having to provide the same overhead as the Mom & Pop store would).
Further, if Mom & Pop want to start a new business or enter a new market, they need to overcome the BARRIER TO ENTER THE MARKET, which is typically proportional to the amount of regulation in a given sector. A larger Corporation has an easier time overcoming these barriers due to their superior resources.
Regulation on a limited basis, and as CONSTITUTIONALLY ALLOWED (by the States, and by the Federal Government where Commerce occurs between States) is not a bad thing, because Laws must be enforced and most well-written Laws and Regulations keep people safe and keep businesses honest. That said, a REGULATED economy is far more susceptible to MANIPULATION than a DE-REGULATED economy, because there are more rules to bend and exploit, thus offering an edge vs. those companies who honestly follow the regulations.
It is one of the great economic ironies in life that “the Rich get Richer while the Poor get Poorer” is used by liberals who don’t understand that their own policies perpetuate the economic inequalities that they use to beat their drums.
So well said.
Just think. If we all had universal health care as a right, how many of us could stop being slaves to jobs we hate. We’d be FREE to find a job where we were treated and paid well, and we wouldn’t have to worry about health insurance.
Two. TWO. Not ‘too’.
Any hope at being credible starts with using the language properly. If you can’t master grammar, who the hell will listen to your politics?
Ron Paul for President of United States 2012.
Save US and save the world as well.
From Republic of Korea
Let’s get something straight here. Jesus Christ is the ONLY Saviour. Not Ron Paul or any other mere human. America and the world is in this oppressive state of tyranny precisely because we have turned our backs on God and seek sinful and greedy politicians to “rule” over us istead so that we can continue in our own pet sins. Much easier than submitting to a pure and holy Saviour. Ron Paul is freemason and is yet another Illuminati opposition leader. Notice how they have leaders for every segment of the population: those who are braindead and stuck in TV land, those who are semi-away and coherant, and those who are about 75% awake an coherant (that’s where Ron Paul’s job is). Don’t you think the Rothschild’s and international bankers are smart enough to know what they are doing, with all the sinister false flag attacks and other evil schemes they’ve successfully pulled on Americans in the past? If Ron Paul was the real deal he would have joined JFK at least 10 years ago. Use your (God given) common sense people. Divide and conquer is the name of their game for the coming Novus Ordo Seclorum. They’ve done their job well. Jesus Christ is the only “President” who can save anyone. Period.
“Those who lead you cause you to err; And those who are led by them are destroyed.” Isaiah 9:16 “Men of high degree are a lie.” Psalm 62:9
Let’s get something straighter here. Your belief in an invisible deity is not the only way.
Ron Paul is RIGHT!
Ron Paul’s argument makes sense. It’s illogical to support cuts in social programs, infrastructure, law enforcement and education and at the same time support unlimited spending on the military and wars in support of corporate interests i.e. the oil industry. It’s the 800-pound gorilla that no conservative and few liberals or moderates are willing to tackle. The Soviet Union did not fail due to a flawed political system (the Chinese share a similar system). It failed because it did not produce goods for the world market and because its military spending was enormous compared to GDP. We seem out to prove that the U.S. capitalist democracy can fail financially just as well as Soviet Communism. We must drastically cut military spending or we’ll perish as a leading economic power.
Contrary to popular belief, this is not a cause of capitalism because we don’t have a capitalistic economy, boo hoo. The system that saves your ass is the one you condemn, Capitalism. It’s the mix of social welfare, government regulations and central-financial manipulation of currencies that messes up the economy and shits in the face of a “hands off” economic market.
Ron Paul wants to End the Wars and bring our troops home from all around the world, Ron Paul is different from any other politician because he is not part of the establishment and can not be paid off by corporations. We as Americans all need to to wake up and listen to what this modern day founding father Ron Paul has to say, and that is to stop these unconstitutional wars which are killing our economy, Stop Inflation and Return to Sound Money, End the Fed, Restore our Constitution, and let the people take their country back!
We would all be wise to listen to Ron Paul, the Champion of the Constitution!
Ron Paul 2012!
This is a little frightening to me — I am a devout progressive, strongly supportive of Obama and all his initiatives, but, and this is a BIG but, Ron Paul makes sense. I fail to understand why we need bases in Europe this many years after WW2 — let them protect themselves. We have done more than enough. Same goes for any and all bases around the world, except S. Korea, and both wars should be ended immediately. Then perhaps we can take care of our own infrastructure, debts, etc.
What you say makes me smile. It is fearful to get out of our comfort zone. But lets face it, if you look behind the scenes you see more of what is really going on. I am glad you appear to be waking up to the fact that there may be a better way. Just not enough people at that point yet. But soon there will be. We have to try something different because the old ways are broke and that is beyond obvious. Peace, what a novel idea eh ? Saves lives, money, time. May even improve our standing with the rest of the world.
unfortunately, ron paul will be the ralph nader of 2012 if he runs.
Ron Paul for President 2012!
ralph nader has nothing on ron paul, ron will win simply because he’s for the people by the people and not bought out by corporations. I would love to see Ron Paul debate Obama in 2012 because ron paul knows how to fix our economy, obama just knows how to drive it deeper into the ditch. As far as Foreign Policy, Monetary Policy, and the Constitution, Ron Paul is the Best Candidate for the 2012 elections. People are waking up to the idea of Freedom once again, and Ron Paul has cured alot of peoples apathy towards the future of this country. Ron Paul is Hope for America, Rather, our Last hope for a Free America. Ron Paul is the only True, Trustworthy, Patriot in washington and we as americans need to see that this country is in a steep radical decline and needs a man like Ron Paul in the white house to get this counrty back on track with the Constitution and the PEOPLE! Ron Paul Revolution 2012!
No way they would let Obama debate with Dr Paul. Ron would eat him alive… I would even be embarassed for Obama. Then I would go celebrate.
…and break into spontanious dancing.
AAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I love it!!! Please let them debate!!! I would PAY to see that!
We taht supported him in ’08 thought that he would eat McCain and Palin and all the neocons and the Democraps all for dinner. They didn’t let him speak most of the time, and when he did he was much to easy going on them. Loved Ron Paul and support him even still, but I don’t think they will allow things to be changed by a Maverick.
just like Paul won in 2008 because he was the only one for the people…
The republican party or democratic party will have to perminantly break and fall in order for the independent to establish power, Washington establishment needs to break.
Voting is completely rigged. If you think that your vote actually counts (or your vote actually gets counted) then I have some beach front property I would like to sell you in Kansas.
Ron Paul could actually get 100% of the vote and the establishment candidate will win. Period, end of story.
This so called country is over.
Thank God for at least one Washington representative who still believes in allegiance to our Constitution. If there was NOBODY saying what Ron Paul is saying, we would be left with the sinking feeling of hopelessness. And thank God that the people of Texas’ 14th District have kept Paul in Congress and not given in to the temptation to send yet another pork-gatherer.
for those that think corporate america is the problem. name ONE problem company that isn’t tax payer subsidized.
RON PAUL 2012
The glaring difference between the Tea party movement now and the one started by Ron Paul is that one tells you to figure things out for yourself and the other wants to do it for you. If you don’t know the different you haven’t research either side enough. Plain and simple if you educate yourself, you might actually figure out something.
I really like Ron Paul. Im just saddened he actually believes in Jesus and other silly superstitions.
A true libertarian more times than not realizes that the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence were based on belief in GOD. Please don’t rewrite history and pretend you are Libertarian. Thanks.
The person who wrote the declaration of independence was not a church going person. Read and you will find the founding fathers were mostly very progressive minded people who didn’t believe in god, or those that did, ie Ben Franklin didn’t believe in organized religion or going to church, but worshiped in their own way on their own time very privately. Not this look at me I am a Christian parade that is happening now. It is disgusting to hear this country was founded on judeo/Christian values when it really wasn’t. Eastern religion taught all the same things Christ taught thousands of years before Jesus was born, all except the fairy tell magic stuff.
Historical ignorance fail. Why don’t you read a letter or two from our Founders, not what some crackpot from Columbia makes up from the ether? They were devoutly religious men.
This Country’s Christian roots can be seen on just about every document, building and monument the founders had anything to do with.
Most public buildings served as Christian churches on Sundays in the days of the founders and from what I have read the majority including Jefferson attended regularly.
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=90
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=123
The Founding Fathers on Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible… An article with quotes by various Founding Fathers on religious issues.
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=8755
Proclamation – Fasting and Prayer – 1798
This is the text of President John Adams’ March 23, 1798 national Fasting and Prayer proclamation.
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=44
Proclamation – America Seeks God in a Time of War – 1777
The text of the first national day of thanksgiving in America (set for December 18, 1777), declared by the Continental Congress on November 1, 1777.
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=56
Benjamin Rush Personal Bible Study
In this Founding Father Benjamin Rush listed scriptures under various topics and wrote his own notes on those scriptures.
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=48
Eastern religion may have a few similarities with Christianity but I doubt if they name in great detail, a Savior hundreds to thousands of years in advance, or are written my many accurate prophets over such long time frames containing prophecies that ONLY fit one particular person, excluding all others, including accurately predicting the city of his birth, that his hands and feet would be pierced and so many other specific details about this person that identifying Jesus as the ONLY person in history to fit the description is even easily recognized by children.
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/m_prophecies.shtml
All that said, the founding fathers did take great care in protecting the right to worship or not to worship for all Americans and without a state authorized religion. Ron Paul is up front about his faith but you will never hear him tout it or in any way attempt to force his religious beliefs on anyone else, especially by law. That would go against everything Ron Paul stands for. The guy is bulletproof when it comes to being the right man for the Oval Office!
RON PAUL IN 2012 OR SOONER!
Good luck proving the founders weren’t mostly Christians after you read what I posted here!
Jack-
While i’m not a religious person either – It makes absolutely no difference to me whether or not someone else is.
That’s the beauty of Ron Paul though. HE is a christian, but he doesn’t let that get in the way of his political beliefs.
As long as he or anyone else in his position can separate their beliefs from their political agenda – then what does it really matter?
For all the millions of good things that Ron Paul stands for – i’d hope that him believing in Jesus doesn’t turn you away.
@Jack Dubious, it is Dr. Paul’s belief in Jesus that gives him class and poise in a thoroughly godless and messed up D.C. Give him a break, allow him to believe what he wants to.
If you believe in the Constitution and what Ron Paul is saying then you would believe in religious freedom. Who cares what his religion is?
But the saving grace is that he would never push it on anyone else, because he knows that it’s not his place to do so.
no need to be sad. i like that he doesn’t push any of it whatsoever. pro freedom of religion.. =) liberty of conscience to all!
I think it’s sad that you are saddened by his religious beliefs.
I am sure you believe in silly things that make other people sad.
Dear Jack,
If you take the time to check the historical records there is way more documentation on Jesus Christ and his life, death and resurrection than there is on Obama. No superstition about it!
Well, at least we are fairly sure of where he was born and educated, what his beliefs were, and what his real name was. Which is far more than can be said of Barry Soetero
Check this article out, it really will put things into perspective.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2010/05/28/crazy
Jack Dubious doesnt seem to understand that Ron Paul has the freedom to belive in any little “silly superstition” he likes. The beauty of RP is that he does not judge the silly superstitions others, nor does he try to impose his beliefs on anyone else. For this, Ron Paul is a much better man than Jack Dubious becuase, as seen from Jack’s comments, it is obvious Mr Dubious would try to impose his beliefs (or lack thereof) on everyone else. Sorry Dubious but you dont have the spirit and unless you get rid of some of yoru hate, you never will. Ron Paul is peace and love and you are just filled with hate.
Ron Paul hit on a couple of great points…we need to pull the troops out of other countries because we’re not nationally focused as an economic power…we spend way too much military dollars and not enough domestic revenues…time to end all pretenses and get the troops back home…let the other countries have their chances to recover and run their own governments…let’s concentrate on our country and get its dollar strength built up!
BUT…Jesus is NOT a superstition!!!
What does a belief have to do with what Ron Paul is talking about? At least it is from a positive source, there is nothing wrong in a belief like this.
As a strict constitutionalist Ron Paul will let you believe whatever you want. Please extend him the same courtesy.
“I really like Ron Paul. Im just saddened he actually believes in Jesus and other silly superstitions.”
Then the fool refuses to see that 911 was an inside job and that Bush repealed the laws of gravity in the patriot act….
the only leaders on the world stage showning any leadership today is Turkey and Iran….
What the hell is wrong with that? This country was founded by people that believed in Jesus, and God and other silly stuff as you call it.
Agreed. The man isn’t stupid, but he would benefit from putting jesus in the fantasy bin with Santa.
He’s about 85% there. I like his blunt pragmatism. I LOVE him shooting holes in the right wing, too. Fun!
hear hear!
Believing in Jesus isn’t an issue unless you let that belief run your politics. Ron Paul doesn’t let his belief run his politics.
Yes thank you Texas 14 you deserve much more credit than you get.
I LIKE RON PAUL,REALLY DO.HE HAS GREAT IDEAS,AND ISN’T AFRAID TO COUNTER THE B.S. THAT COMES OUR WAY VIA THE MEDIA. WHAT SADDENED ME,AND OTHERS’ I KNOW … THE LAST ELECTION, THERE WERE RON PAUL HEADQUARTERS IN MANY CITIES….THE HEADQUARTERS WERE ESTABLISHED, THEN DEAFENING SILENCE. NOT ONLY NO – MEDIA COVERAGE (TO BE EXPECTED)….BUT NOTHING AT ALL GOING ON EXCEPT AN EMPTY H.Q.
MYSELF AND FRIENDS ACTIVELY SOUGHT OUT ALL THINGS RON PAUL….THERE WAS A DEARTH OF ACTIVITY.
RON:WE’D LIKE TO SUPPORT YOU,VOTE FOR YOU. YOU HAVE TO CAMPAIGN,IN PERSON.
Sarah Palin + Glenn Beck = Phonny Baloney
I’m beginning to agree. Both Beck and Palin are egotists. Dr. Paul is a constitutionalist and believes whole-heartedly that this revolution is OURS and not his. He is a spokesman for liberty, not himself; and i like that.
I think people were disheartened by Palin being there. I see through their BS…hopefully others will too.
I rolled my eyes when I read Palin was speaking at this rally. If I had a billion dollars to give I’d give it to his campaign. Not for any special favors but because I believe in his message. We’re witnessing a pivotal moment in our history and, like Ron Paul, I feel lucky to be a part of it.
@ashen the revolution you speak of, would only open the flood gates of what we fear most. We cannot allow any provocatouring that would lead to violent resistance. Hearts and minds are won with reason and intellect.
The events of 1776 through 1781 indicate otherwise.
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I love Ron Paul this much… and that’s pretty much a lot in 1:985630458345 scale!!
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Anthony
I love Ron Paul…he’s like a father (or grandfather) to me. He really is as close to our founders as there is in DC by far!
That is EXACTLY what people need to do!
The Palin/Beck Tea Party is a FOX NEWS fraud!
They are just Neocons Carpetbagging on the REAL Ron Paul Tea Party movement. People are waking up to this.
Actually, Ron Paul, if he is a true Libertarian, is an Atheist,which would really piss off the Tea Party.
Ronb Paul is most decidedly not an athiest, and I fail to see what part of the libertarian beliefs requires one to give up belief in a diety.
These so called “libertarians” are usually malcontent anarchist types that want marijuana legalized. They don’t understand freedom or the constitution.
Al, maybe you can show us where it says Libertarians are Atheists. That’s a new one for this Libertarian. It’s no where stated in our Party’s website, platform or ideals, so I think this may be your own principle, but not that of a true Libertarian.
http://www.lp.org/blogs/andrew-davis/dsouzas-blunder
I agree with you John, but I see where Al may be going. So many faiths require that their adherents live according to certain laws. In others, proselytizing by the faithful is the only path to redemption. A Muslim believer in Sharia law could never be a libertarian.
Clearly Ron Paul is not a biblical literalist, and recognizes the necessity of separation of church and state, so this is not an issue.
You can take your holy book (your choice) literally or you can take the constitution literally, but you can’t do both.
A true libertarian more times than not realizes that the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence were based on belief in GOD. Please don’t rewrite history and pretend you are Libertarian. Thanks.
Dr. Ron Paul is correct. I did not hear/read anything on the Beck rally other than ” return to faith and Honor “. Republicans and others are being taken for a ride by the same tactics as always.
Did good ole Glenn say a word about the CFR, Bilberbergs, Illuminati, Round Table, TriLateral Commission. The same criminals that propped up Mcain, and Palin are propping up Beck and Palin.
If truth was mentioned you won’t hear it from good ole Glenn and Sarah. They are the latest paid puppets for the Globalist bankers, and their controlled media to parade in front of the public as “conservatives” for ” Republicans “. The current new hope for the folks.
What good ole Glenn and Sarah should be saying is wake up—-get informed, educated, and active. Expose, fight, and bring the criminals to justice. Demand our Country’s government stay within the confines of the Constitution. Demand Obama be impeached, tried for treason, and hung. Then hang all those exposed for their crimes.
Just over another 500,000 thousand good intentioned Americans fed and led to Washington to wave flags and cheer, to be told to return to faith instead of return to common sense and if needed revolution. We do have to have loyalty, faith and believe in God. Not a politicial,or media pundit or puppet. Not a “leader” placed in front of you to help keep you distracted from your freedoms being taken from you and your children and grandchildren. The answer you need and seek exists in front of you. The Constitution, and the truth about who the real enemies are is all around you.
Learn now, before you are forced to learn, with martial law, then slavery. Where will you and the children be?
True Libertarian defined by who? Since when did religious affiliation have to dictate what your political beliefs are. Libertarian is derived from the word liberty (or liberal), which means “freedom”. That being said, I would think a true libertarian would believe in freedom of religion with separation of church and state regardless of what their personal faith is. I like to look at Ron Paul as a man that believes in upholding the constitution, plain and simple, and I don’t know if there is any political party label you can put on him because there’s not many out there like him, if any.
Well, that would piss them off, and would be funny, but no, libertarians do not have to be atheists. It is just that don’t think a person’s religion is of utmost importance when running for office. I don’t care if a candidate is Christian, muslim, atheist, or if he or she worships a garden hose. I just want them to lead and do their job.
I’m assuming you’re an Athiest? If you want to be a good Athiest, you need to stay logical.
A person can be religious AND a libertarian as long as they believe the church should stay out of politics and the gov’t should stay out of the church. There is nothing about believing in the existence of a God that logically precludes this combination.
You think to be a libertarian you have to be an atheist? A Google search will show how many people share both beliefs.
Being a libertarian — much like the founders of our Republic — does not require one to be atheist. Being libertarian is all about respecting individual liberties. The Civil Liberties Union, famous for getting Christmas trees removed from public property, has, unfortunately, equated libertarians with atheists in many people’s minds.
Libertarianism is a political theory and is not concerned with theology. Believe what you wish and extend the courtesy to others.
What rubbish. There is nothing whatever in Libertarianism which precludes a belief in God. Atheism is the last refuge of morons in my experience anyway.
Some would say religion is the first refuge of dupes and suckers.
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@Al What makes you think you have to be Atheistic to be a true Libertarian?
Please end the focus on national security and return our focus back to the security of liberty.
The rule of law is in jeopardy.
Ron Paul 2012 (Running mate Peter Schiff)
All other candidates would simply be election spoilers keeping corporate yes men in charge.
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Ron Paul’s message isn’t surprising at all, he’s been consistent as long as I can remember.
I also have prayed that Ron Paul will be chosen as our new President in 2012. I see him as our only hope for our country’s constitutional values to be restored.
I especially like Ron Paul’s introduction of the Parental Consent Act.
I think Sarah Palin is an overall good person, but with me she has lost credibility as a possible presidential candidate.
@Al, that shouldn’t piss off the tea party if it is truly libertarian. Politico-religionism is not liberatarian. And, having the state endorse any religious system is antithetical to religious freedom anyway. I’d have taken the teabaggers more seriously if they hadn’t allowed the evangelicals to co-opt their movement.
Congressman Paul is exactly right, but we’re listening. I don’t think the Tea Partiers attend these rallies to support Beck or Palin, but because they’ve got a place to be seen. Congressman Paul, you show up in Michigan and I guarantee you’ll get a massive crowd of Gadsden flag waving supporters. I’ll be in the front row.
A good number of years ago the neo-con religious nuts hijacked to GOP, and now they appear to have done the same to the Tea Parties.
Sad, really.
Al, your religious views have nothing to do with libertarian principles. You are an Objectivist that must not know about Rand’s quarrels with Libertarians. Political parties and religion should be separate matters. Stop trying to combine them.
Who cares what religion the man is, the fact is he wouldn’t use his religion for votes or for laws and he wouldn’t enforce his religious beliefs into law. He would respect your own beliefs, why can’t you do the same?
One of the main features of organized religions is to foster hatred of those not in your cult.
Does that include your own religion, the Liberal Faith? Which preaches homosexuality, the Global Warming Apocalypse, and political correctness?
If you want Paul in 2012… this is how it’s done.
This is a short video on the political process at the precinct, district or ward level.
http://WWW.WAGTHEDOG2010.COM
SPREAD THE WORD AND GET INVOLVED!!! Or be held down by the chains that have been placed upon you…
Mr. Paul needs to attend the meeting if he’s going to “report” what it was about…had NOTHING to do with politics (at least for those I spoke [around me] with who attended the rally).
Actually, true libertarians realize it isn’t up to them to dicate to others their religion.
While I very much respect Ron Paul and I love that he’s one of the few politicians speaks the truth about our country’s insane foreign policy – I do believe he’s seriously misguided in some of his ideas. Libertarian ideals are great when it comes to civil liberties – I’m on board 100%. But true freedom will not come for the majority of people without governmental restraints when it comes to big business. Otherwise we are headed right to another gilded age. In fact, that’s where the Republican policies of the last 30 years have us headed now.
I agree, we need small government – and one of its functions should be to constrain big business from becoming a shadow government. I don’t believe that is inconsistent with Ron Paul’s belief.
Beck does not believe in the vat tax you manipulator…pay closer attention!
well, ron paul knows the truth, and the bible is the most recognizable truth of all, infact, god is truth. u shouldnt be saddened that he believes in jesus, because he promotes peace, just like the catholic/christian faith. watch ron paul’s famous “wat if…” speech, he even says something like, “wat if the bible actually does teach peace, and love?” its a great thing.
I am rely skeptical that he actually made these statments
Ron Paul is pro-freedom, anti-war and anti-useless spending. The man knows how to handle our country. And that is EXACTLY why I’ll be voting for him in 2012.
Oh come on! Sour grapes from Ron Paul.
The Tea Parties originated from the Ron Paul campaign but were adopted and continued by local activists. Some were started and are part of the machine Paul speaks of but the flaw in his statement is HUGE!
Not all Tea Parties are dupefied despite the claims he makes they are made up of. I wonder if Ron Paul’s statement is that he is really disappointed that the Tea Parties didn’t continue under his Campaign for Liberty banner.
Way to lay the groundwork for 2012, Paul! Slap the legitimate Tea Parties in the face.
Dr Paul,
Thank you for the message…as always you are right on. Please support Gov. Gary Johnson for President. We like you but you are too old youself to run……so please support Gary.
Thanks
THE TIME HAS COME.
RON PAUL 2012
Dr. Paul would have won last election, he clearly won all the debates and the polls proved it. Go back and watch them, they are all on youtube, there are some awesome debates. But the MSM is owned by a few corporations who own the government (through their paid off politicians anyways). So even when he is clearly the peoples choice he will not even be invited to the final rounds of debates. Just like last time. Hopefully 2012 will be different, the current politicians and the Fed, the PTB (powers that be) if you will are afraid of Ron Paul. Very afraid, that is why all sides are trying to take over this Tea Party movement. I have really seen Ron Paul grow since the last election, I think in 2012 he will be better prepared and even more people willing to listen.
Also, he did not start the Tea Party, he started the Revolution. The Tea Party movement was started by CNBC’s Rick Santelli. He was rightfully mad about the bailouts and called for a protest and it grew quickly from there.
But Ron Paul and very few others have been fighting this fight for decades, only now people are starting to listen.
Sarah Palin is a war-mongering jew-worshippor.
@Al:
Ron Paul IS a true libertarian AND NOT an atheist. One can be a libertarian or not, and an atheist or not. What makes you think that true libertarians, who are morally opposed to all forms of force and coercion between human beings, must necessarily be atheist?
I’m a Libertarian and a Christian. Real freedom allows for both. Why say to be a true Libertarian one must be an Atheist? Harry Browne was not afraid to say that the Libertarian party was the only party that would always protect his right to be a Christian as it protects all individual rights.
I love Ron Paul.
I am not to sure about Ron Paul he could be another agent for the Illimunatti.headed by the House of Rotschild.
Libertarianism actually has nothing to do with anyone’s religion, or lack of it. It seems to me that atheism of the doctrinaire variety is just another form of religion itself. I myself have spiritual leanings, am not an atheist, and consider myself libertarian.
Anyway, Ron Paul is entirely right about Beck, Palin et al. Those people are hijacking a legitimate movement and diverting its energies into continuing the status quo, not changing it. The Repugs are as bad as the Demorats, and I wish more people couls see that.
Beck is a complete fraud. He is no conservative. He is just another NeoCon like Palin working for Murdoch’s NeoCon media empire. He is leading well meaning conservative Americans astray. He is really just a superficial pompous ass. What he really wants to do is keep conservative misdirected. He wants them to oppose Obama instead of the elite of the New World Order. Lots of people are fooled by them though. They are spoon fed their ideas of what freedom is and they don’t even realize it. Most are good people too. Currently that means fighting and dying to protect Israel. I’ll bet the Zionists get a kick out of that.
Al Stiegman, what makes you think that Libertarian equates Atheism?
Libertarians believe in limited government, and governing based on the U.S.Constitution.
The TEA party as it now stands with Beck and Palin will be the spoilers in the next election, not Dr. Paul.
The Tea party is just part of the old divide and conquer plan. The actions of the Beck/Palin clown set prove that.
If it turns out that Ron Paul ever does have a good chance of becoming president you can bet every dollar you have that he will have an ‘accident’ or a ‘heart attack’ or something. No way in hell would they ever let him become president.
Ron Paul dropped the ball and let all his followers down leading to the “obamanation” getting elected. Why trust that he won’t do the same next time. I really thought he was great, now like the rest he is nothing but a self serving bag of hot air.
Where on God’s earth did Al Steigman get his idea that libertarians are atheists? What a crock! Ron Paul will not get elected until we have news media that is not owned lock, stock, and barrel by the tribes. Ron Paul is NOT just another Zionist sock puppet; therefore, he will not get elected. Period.
beck is a fleck on my deck
palin is a stalin who fallen
i rank these two up among the most disgusting and vile people that inhabit the earth. They have their own agenda (popularity) and the agenda of their masters. I cannot believe fall for their hype. Its just another example of how dumbed-down americans really are. We have an awful lot of ignorant gullible naive people on this planet. We all need to be teachers and disseminators of truth.
Too bad Ron Paul didn’t have the courage to go to this “Tea Party” event and chase these two charlatans off the stage…that would have been a very powerful message; something like that would have cemented the image of the Tea Party as THE anti-war movement! But he didn’t…
teap party = controlled opposition. (yes america…you have been taken for a ride…again.)
Of course Ron Paul is most likely also part of the controlled opposition too. His stance on 911 indicate that he is.
There is a GREAT Expression that says “Let Go & Let God”!
It shocks me that Ron Paul does not see that the people following Glenn Beck are “People that believe in God”! “GOD” is in the Constitution as written by our forefathers. I watched and and listened to The Washinging D.C. Gathering, carefully. { Glenn did start out with a 912 Movement which for a couple months was basically given to the “PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED WITH THE FIRST ANSWERS”, that MIGHT find more ideas when they “Brainstormed together, without Glenn”. Glenn heard back from them, but these people above mentioned went on and helped develop the “Tea Party”. WE went to the first gathering in South Western Florida, in a town called “PUNTA GORDA”. It was delightful and there were so many people there and such uplifting feelings brought back from that event by my husband and I. These People were both From College Age–Retired, in an upper middle class town. NO REDNECKS! Glenn’s Event was about INVITING “GOD” TO JOIN US in this effort to ‘TOPPLE The “EVIL” THAT HAS COME TO THIS NATION. NO EVIL POLITICS WERE INVOLVED! I have always seen RON PAUL AS SAVIOR OF OUR CONSTITUTION, from the inside of the CONGRESS! I also can see him as a PRESIDENT! But without GOD–it is all for naught! It will be the same ol’ same ol’ CORRUPTION!
The problem with all good intentioned Libertarians is that they are and always will be a “Third Rail” party, not unlike the “Green Party”,we know from history how well the “Green Party” has fared in advancing there political ideology and candidates,..they just keep on throwing gutter balls while the Dems and Cons keep on making the strikes because they are the POWER PLAYERS in the game.
The so called “New” kids in town,you that call yourselves Libertarians and the EXTREME FAR RIGHTERS,the “Tea Party” that really isn’t a party at all but has been hijacked by the Republican Party really do not stand a chance in hell of electing enough people in numbers that could or would make any difference at all in representing your “Regressive” political ideology, something that is not lost to either of the two major very Real money Parties.
All I can say to you is GOOD LUCK electing Dr. Ron Paul, you’ll need luck and much, much more to pull that rabbit out of the political hat. (:>}
By the time 2012 comes along,most of the people,will depend on goverment for there pay check or hand out.and they will vote for the people that will pay them.sad very sad,ron paul for 2012 maybe,but i think things need to get real bad first.
The Ashkanazi Rothschild bankers are Luciferian. It’s going to take a strong Christ follower to take them on and survive.
Yes i agree with Mr Paul.Beck and Palin,s latest rants, really stink of draft patriotism, they are too pro military for my way of thinking the tea party should be thinking.A country that cuts budgets to education, jobs, raises taxes across the board, donates record funds to poor countries, while their own peoples are losing their homes, jobs, and futures, and the same time increasing military spending, well clearly the people have lost control over the gov,t, it is now being run like an out of control failing company, that stays afloat robbing the world of its wealth of resources. The Us has been taken over by pirates, and robber barons, time for a drastic change.
My thoughts exactly. The Beck SOB wants more wars for Israel and then has the gall to talk about budget deficits. Have you ever heard of George Washington and his farewell message to avoid “Foreign Entanglements”?
How about the Patriot Act and warrant-less wiretaps Mr. Beck and Mrs. Palin? You ever hear of a warrant or the 4th Amendment? Are these tea party people another collection of saps?
@Al – You get a point for trying to be funny, but if really think libertarian = atheism then you probably go around saying stupid chit all the time.
I would expect that if RP ran again in 2012 there could be no more ignoring him. There is no way the controlled media would be able to downsize Ron Paul any longer. He will win by the biggest landslide ever.
They’ll kill him first. If not, that would prove they own him. What do you think this is, a democracy or something?
Besides, the Republicans would never nominate him and Americans are so brain washed most would never vote for a non-Republican/Democrat lest they ‘waste their vote.”
Didnt Beck say that he is for ending the fed?
And the guy above me is an idiot. Ron Paul is christian, and proud of it. Libertarianism isnt about what religion you are. Anyone who says so doesnt understand the message.
Why do you need a “tea” party when there is already a Libertarian Party?
How is it that Glen Beck and Sarah Palin who are owned by international corporations, are allowed to speak for the Tea Party. Hook, line and sinker… You all have been taken.
Ron Paul..could have been the only hope for America…but again..they were taken for a ride…
You would think that..enough..is enough…
I am not American..but IF I were…I would certainly make sure that Ron Paul is the next president. America cannot afford another Bush..or Obama.
RON PAUL in 2012!
The Tea Party will become another controlled opposition when the basic principles of Liberty and Constitutional Government fall to the wayside. These two principles encompus all Americans and are non diversive and 100% Patriotic. If Sara Palin and Glen Beck hijack this movement, the focus will return to Left vs Right, Dem vs Rep diversive party politics that benefit the establishment at the expense of the electorate. The Tea party movement is not about dumping more money into the military, more foreign intervention, tax cuts and smaller government. The Tea Party movement is about restoring Liberty and Constitutional Government, it’s return would demand the end to all the illegal and unconstitutional repressive Federal Institutions and laws, it is that SIMPLE. The Political Establishment does not want you to see this, so they promise petty anti changes that leave the current system in tact, it is that SIMPLE. Remember Beck is an entertainer and Palin is an Establishment Republican and her support for the Globalist, Pro Amnisty for Ilegals McCain speaks for itself. PERIOD!!
@Al Stiegman – “true” libertarian? You couldn’t get all of them to agree that any of them is a TRUE libertarian at a libertarian CONVENTION.
Ron Paul was the libertarian nominee for president before they decided that pro – “choice” was a libertarian position. The constitution guarantees the right to LIFE, among others we are given from GOD. The libertarians think we don’t need border control either.
Ron Paul is a Constitutionalist. That is better than a libertarian in my book.
The Tea Party is useless it was a nice thought but it has no spine the founders gave us the way and the means to bring this country back to the people and the Tea party is not the way.
Here’s your tea party…
“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it.” – Lenin
Imagine living next to Ron Paul and you were being robbed or raped. He would shut his door, turn the lights off and go hide under his bed. I believe he has this ridiculous idea of not defending our country that is in line with the leftist anti-ware agenda and they do not wish to support our military. I would rather have a leader that would not be afraid to help me fight evil before it comes home. For someone like this to try to hijack the Teaparty and claim he knows what they are is wrong. The Teaparty is not finely defined. It includes many different views that are pro-Constitutional. Just like our country is comprised of many religions and most all believe in God. Ron Paul continues to push an unsuccessful agenda instead of helping to fight the enemies within.
It is amazing that Glenn Beck has claimed the Tea Party. During the 2008 election he degraded Ron Paul at every opportunity. Additionally, one wonders how anyone supports drill and kill Palin. Strange times. These individuals seem contrary to all that the Tea Party was meant to represnet.
Ron Paul for President 2012!
Let’s kick the Corporatists out of the White house and Restore our Freedom!! This is our last chance people, will you fight for freedom?! Vote Ron Paul 2012!
The time has come for giving your piece a chance.
Your .45, your uzi 9mm, your riot shotgun, your .50 cal single shot sniper special, your AKs, etc.
What Ron cannot say as it could be detrimental to his health, is that states rights prevail domestically under the constitution, and the Federal government has broken the social contract by blatantly violating the constitution in all three branches, negating the checks and balances demanded of those branches. The only way out of this pyramid scheme run by foreign bankers is a takeover of state governments out of the hands of the elephants and donkeys, and a secession from the laws and feudal corporate command of the District of Columbia. A re-issuing of a constitutional government in Philadelphia, with a sovereign national bank, a coining based on tangibles such as gold and silver, and an elimination of all Federal laws period. All future law will be written in plain common English not legalese. All trade and treaty with Great Britain and all her allies will be ended and She will be considered a part of a new terrorist watch list. We will withdraw our troops from the protection of any of the Queen’s territories or assets. We will re-establish a trade agreement with our northern and southern neighbors as an economic force in direct competition with the rest of the world. We will secure our borders, and demand that our neighbors secure theirs. We will demand that Canada and Mexico claim its sovereignty publicly or be considered an ally of our untrusted former enslaver in the UK. No lawyer will ever be allowed to hold public office in any capacity again. All citizens will be given the full rights outlined in the constitution. All current and former Federal Politicians will be tried as enemies of the people, and will be considered not guilty until they plead their guilt under a court system matching the illusion of justice they have perpetrated against all mankind. All new elected officials will be required to broadcast publicly their oath of office on a daily basis, as well as a pledge of allegiance to the people and God (not the flag, and God being apart from religion). All debt accrued under the Federal Reserve Banking System of Foreign Barons of Wealth will be the responsibility of those banks, as the currency is plain paper and valueless, and the debt is unsecured and backed by zero collateral. Any meddling in our affairs in the least by these internationally and historically recognized mobsters will be met with the same attack that today’s terrorists are met with. All Intelligence agencies will be dissolved and their members held in incarceration until they can be safely released, if ever. Every future budget will be balanced or in the black, as borrowing of money by any government agency will be considered a treasonous action. All corporations will be required to identify 80% of the value of their shareholders as citizens of the Untied States. All broadcast communication companies must be wholly owned by citizens of the United States. Each Republic will maintain their own immigration laws and enforcement for any alien of the nation. No foreign aid can be enacted by government officials, only private organizations. There must be a minimum of 3 parties in all state and national elections, and all campaign incomes will be pooled and shared between the three or more. An amendment will be passed demanding that war can only be declared by first a majority of congress, then by a majority of a single vote by the governors of the states. Every year of war after declaration will require a re-vote using the same method. All laws be they national or state will be under 5, 10 or 20 year moratorium at which time they must be re=passed or declared void. The people will be considered the security force of the nation. The national governments powers of domestic security will be infinitely impotent.
Ron Paul is a KOOK!
This is the same isolationist, appeasement rhetoric that has thrown the world into 2 world wars.
His attitudes won’t end wars it will create bigger ones.
Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck are Main stream media shit, Bought and paid for by the elite of this world. Oust them out of the Tea Party they only want to bring them into the main stream media so they can make them popular IN the main stream media which brings us back to square one… more lies fuck them off they are no good
How is this message shocking? Makes perfect sense to me. Ron Paul is the ONLY person in congress who never changes what he says.
I support and trust Ron Paul 100% and hope he runs in 2012!
The same unrepentant Zionist shysters who are in Obama’s face from morning until night ‘select’ who is to be your next President. Clearly Sarah Palin is preening herself for the job. Anyone who thinks she makes decisions when she gets there, needs to have their head examined.
“I am just a rodeo clown”.
–Glenn Beck
“I don’t give a damn about politics, this is just entertainment”.
–Glenn Beck
Ron Paul is the best of the lot, but remember it won’t stop a Depression.
the back bone Industry today is the Industrial war complex shut it down now and unemployment will double.
without war USA fails today.That is what your masters have done to the American people. As a consequence The legacy of the American people
and in the name of the American people War is used from time to time to cull the population of USA and to enrich the Elites at the expense of the American people.
Today around the world your legacy has deteriorated to that of warmonger and criminal military state.
The Tea party became a joke the moment it was joined by Beck.
Ron Paul is a “set up”
He is Illuminati agent
hmm. i thought TEA was for Taxed Enough Allready,
if not than give up the name.
it becomes the coolaid party all too easily and it will likely dissolve when obama dissolves.
even that Paul maybe created them, they are kind’a bastards now
and Paul needs to continue without them.
support to Ron Paul from Australia !
The Tea party and Ron Paul can both agree on this idea. Every State stops paying Federal and Social Security income taxes.
Isn’t that what started happening in 1776?
Ron Paul won’t live long enough if he continues to tell the truth about whats going on in once great us of a. Jewish kabal will make sure of it. i would be crapping myself if i was in his position
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I think that like the soviet union the american empire will collapse due to economics and that a new system will take over. The only problem is that the new system is already coming into place and it is the corporate take over of america. Fascism if you will. For america this is a more dangerous situation than when you had your war to become independant from england. The pity however is that there may not be anyone who is prepared to take a stand. Although its not written in history books but do you not think the english offered to bribe washington and his top men making them all super rich if they accepted. Ofcourse they did but obviously washington told them where to stick it. When the corporate world offer their bribe to our modern day revolutionaries who will say NO.
Dr Paul is the voice of reason. The so-called movement of protest is funded by the largest corporatist interests such as the Kochs and Murdoch.
The Gary Cooper movie Meet John Doe should be required viewing. Behind the tea party are very dark forces.
The cultural war is the tactic used to divide and fragment anger against the criminal elites.
Will you be fooled?
Finally, the issue that has been missing from the Tea Party rhetoric, the trillions we spend maintaining a global empire, pallets of cash going missing in the Middle East. The first thing we need to do to simplify our government is bring it back home. Why do we maintain small cities in foreign countries? If they would address the biggest part of our big government, our defense empire, they could become a strong third party.
Run, Ron, run 2012! Sarah Palin has ruined the Tea Party.
1.Ralph Nader did not cause Gore to lose-Gore gave up, according to “secret government politics”,& “DemTruth” can’t handle that.Although I like Ron Paul, to say he is not part of the whole mess, though different in good ways, is giving him too much credit.Let him give up half his salary until this depression goes away, then sing his praises.
Sarah Palin,although pretty,is just another whore for Israel.
She will do as AIPAC tells her to and that is in conflict with our constitution.
Do not allow the republicans to hijack the T party movement.
We are in this predicament due to them being compromised by the interests and efforts of a foreign nation (Israel).
The dems are running to socialism and fascism at 100 miles per hour,but the republicans are getting there at 60,that isn’t a choice if we want our freedoms and limited government.
To restore the republic. We must assemble. This group is helping folks get together. http://theunitedstatesdejuregovernment.com/Home.html
We can’t have a government by the people and for the people without people being directly involved.
Ron Paul is right TPTW is trying to control the tea parties.
Ron Paul for Interim President…Taking bets on when Obama is done
.I am curious what % of the readers are muslims……
The Tea Party is nothing more than Newt Gingrich’s Contract With America co-option scheme all over again. Just as Gingrich derailed the ’94 freshman Congressional delegation, and rendered them nothing more than another crop of corrupt politicians, so the Tea Party appears poised to do the same with the current wave of potential reformers. Ron Paul refuses to deviate from the path of truth and justice. In a better world, he’d be president already.
Ron Paul is a real Christian and that is what is so confusing to so many people who hold it against him.
He knows the facts I hope more people can understand the facts then they will understand Ron Paul.
This is divisive finger pointing and BS. He must feel threatened by Palin and Beck. What has he done all these years in Congress? Has he even brought up the question of Obama’s eligibility in Co;ngress? No! He has some fine ideas, but that’s as far as they go…ideas, nothing in action.
The big lie is that if America stops fighting/funding Israel’s wars in the middle east the Islamic fundamentalists will anyways continue to attack America because their jealousy of their freedom and democracy. Americans should understand that if they bring their troops back home they will save tons of money that can make America prosper again and they would become absolutely invincible to any sort of foreign attack. That coupled with ending the usurious FED would make America the most prosperous land in the world as it was prior to when the Rothschilds pushed their usurious central bank into America and they manipulated American politics to support their middle eastern creation called Israel.
I am 56 yrs old, and never voted for a President. I have known for many years that the popular vote does not elect a President. It wasn’t until DR. Ron Paul decided to go for it, that I actually got involved. I went to meetings, talked to people on the street, all my brainwashed friends, and anyone that would listen. I handed out literature. I knew they wouldn’t let him win, but he is the only one I ever heard tell the truth. He is the only one that had the guts to speak it, and I wanted to help get that truth out into the public. How much is our freedom worth to you? How much are your children worth to you? A lot you say? Well then, stand up, be heard, before you wind up losing everything. Listen to alternative news sites, like Gerald Celente, Alex Jones, David Icke, The Camelot Project, Sprword.com, and The Avalon Project. There are many more truth tellers out there, but you won’t find many of them on your TV set. There is truth, it is out there if someone wants to find it for themselves. Thank You Dr Paul!! You gave me inspiration.
Dr. Paul has it quite right. What this country needs is a basic return to the priciples of the founding fathers. Bring our troops home, close our foreign bases, stop the wars, and care for our own people here at home. The world will not crumble if we stop sticking our noses in everywhere, but one thing is sure. If we don’t stop sticking our noses in everywhere, our own country will crumble, as it is already doing. The two party system is bought and paid for by the same corporations, which is why even though Obama is in office, it appears to be Bush’s 3rd term. Same wars, same policies, same wreckless spending. It has to end, or the United States surely will.
Hardly shocking to anyone with a brain.
Ron Paul 2012 !!
Ron Paul is the true image behind the Tea Party movement.
Glenn Beck is a puppet of NeoCon Rupert Murdoch and a traitor to Liberty and the Tea Party movement.
Sarah Palin is just a puppet in the making of those who govern from the shadows. To the list of those puppets we may include; Barack Obama, George Bush and Bill Clinton.
I still have my bumper sticker on my vehicle that says, “Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Ron Paul” and I will again.
I’m also tired of, not only excess taxes & wars, but:
1. Career politicians. Why is there no term limit for the House & Senate?
2. Senile old fools on the nation’s highest court being left there until you’re not sure if they’re dead because they haven’t moved in over an hour. Worse, when they leave (feet first wouldn’t surprise me since there’s no age limit for THEM, unlike the rest of the US), they’re being replaced by people who intend to legislate from the bench, appointees with (again) NO term limits, no mandatory retirement, NO standards (Elena Kagan hasn’t ever been a judge; how does she rate being a Supreme Court Justice?). The closest we get to them being subject to the will of the people is the Senate confirmation proceedings. (I wonder when the House & Senate are going to wake up & realize they’re making themselves unnecessary if the judges can make laws without regard to what “we the people” want? It’s going to be a piece of cake for them to disband Congress; all they have to do is hand down a decision that the legislative branch isn’t necessary. There ARE countries ruled by their supreme court, & most of them are corrupt.)
3. Campaigning for the next election that starts about a week after inauguration, it seems. We need to limit the amount of time someone can campaign, period; doing so, especially for those seeking re-election, would allow them to do the job we pay them to do, instead of making campaigning a full time occupation. Plus, limit the amount of money they can spend so others who are qualified but poor might have a chance at running for office. In the UK, there is, I believe, only 4-6 weeks of campaigning permitted if memory serves from when my husband was stationed over there. While I can’t endorse the idea that the PM gets to decide IF & when there will be another election, I do like the limits on how long they can campaign. And can we please pass a law to make robocalling illegal as a campaign tool?
4. The preponderance of trial lawyers in the legislature practically guarantees things like lawsuit abuse are never going to see any real reform. We need to make it a law that you can give input on laws affecting your profession but you can’t vote on it. Maybe THEN an OB wouldn’t go bankrupt while abortion doctors make tons of cash under the table, much of which is unreported to the IRS (I’m a RN, I’ve heard them talk about the cash haul from those clinics). That, on top of the fact no matter how shoddy the procedure was done, I’ve yet to see a woman win a malpractice case against an abortion doctor, but they can sue an OB over practically nothing until the statute of limitations runs out AFTER the kid reaches age 21 (meaning they’re not safe from lawsuits until the kid’s 28 at least). Abortion may be legal, but it’s rarely safe; from what I’ve seen of the complication rate, women would be better off with hangars. I don’t like abortion, but if they’re going to do it, at least have some standards of care & adhere to them.
5. On a lighter note: There are so many stupid laws passed, so here’s one that will actually do some good: If they’re going to pass idiot laws, pass one that forbids TV advertisers from quadrupling the volume of their ads on TV; I’ve about jumped out of my skin more than once from the sudden increase. I’d bet there are old people who’ve had cardiac events because of it (but then, with Obamacare, we have to get rid of old people & those with chronic conditions or we can’t afford it-oh, wait, we can’t afford it anyway).
We need people who have been marginalized from the unfair electoral system and Corporate media to come together & back a 3rd slate of candidates. All anti-war, pro-decentralization groups need to band together, including those who would support such people as Ron Paul, Jesse Ventura, Ralph Nader, Cynthia McKinney — all Libertarians, Greens, Constitutionalists, etc., need to put aside ideological differences to end Authoritarianism at home and Empire-building around the world.
“Madness in individuals is rare, but in groups, crowds and nations, it is the rule.” – Friedrich Nietzsche
This is not shocking to people involved in the TEA Party. Folks involved know all too well that rapacious government thugs will move in to feed on whatever they can, and the gutter quality of what is put up as TEA Party “Leaders” is ample evidence of what they really think of Americans speaking out for America.
There is, of course, no Left or Right to the actual TEA Party voters – that’s obvious when you look at what the name of the party means. The meaning that the mainstream is afraid to even refer to lest it drive more voters to the real base of the movement:
TEA = Taxed Enough Already!
TEA Party is about nothing more, and nothing less, than taking government back from the criminals for the citizenry.
Let’s hope they can somehow manage it and prevent the inevitable violence that our government is preparing to keep the people they’ve come to view as “their property” under control.
Asten,
You are absolutely correct. Corproate ownership of our government is the problem, and without a million man second amendment march on the capital and white house where we the people invite the whole lot of them to GTFO, nothing is going to change. All the legal mechanisms for change have been co opted by corporate or government interests, and operating outside of those mechanisms is our only viable alternative.
Mr. Paul totally misrepresents Glenn’s message.
The most disheartening thing is that he can be marginalized by the media as soon as he makes some noise. The average american is tuned into the 2 party arguments back and forth over trivial subjects while avoiding the actual issues.
Ron Paul in 2012 !!!
Then why isn’t Campaign for Liberty organizing events like this?? Ron Paul should have STEPPED UP his campaign when the market collapsed and vindicated his entire campaign platform.
Ron saysit like it is. We don’t need Glen Beck or Sarah Palin to subvert the efforts of the Tea Party. They are both in it for themselves. Glen Beck is a two faced Liar. As soon as the Government turns up the heat he backs down and kisses their you know what. Sarah Palin is an ignorant politician trying to line her pockets with our money. I wonder if either of them have read all of the countries founding documents. Also when BIG business stops giving our jobs to foreign nationals the country just may see a recovery. I am all for disbanding the FED just like Abraham Lincoln and John Kennedy. Bank of Rothchild is not welcome in America.
My crystal ball says: The Republicans will have MAJOR victories in the upcoming elections. They will then NOT vote to eliminate the IRS, defund the DOE and return schools and education to the States, or begin the process to privatize and eliminate Social Security, or repeal Obamacare, or vote to withdraw our troops from foreign soil, will NOT vote to completely stop illegal aliens from entering our nation, will NOT vote to stop the war on drugs, will NOT vote to withdraw from the U.N., will NOT stop sending “foreign aid” to enemy nations, will NOT audit the Fed or vote to go back on the gold standard, will NOT vote for the enumerated powers act, will NOT maintain government within the legal bounds of our Constitution. We need an entire government full of Ron Pauls. Instead, we have republicans and democrats.
I just think that RP is being philosophically consistent.
Its liberals who, if they are consistent, would consider both domestic spending and foreign spending (aid, wars (see Vietnam) as a worthwhile endeavor. Similarly, conservatives should be skeptical of the efficacy of government spending, both at home, and spending on foreign affairs, whether fiscal aid or wars. In each instance government spending should be a last resort, realizing much damage will be done and much money wasted as it it is the government that is doing the spending.
To be honest, I don’t know how you can be a small-government TP activist, with an aggessive foreign policy. Its seems dissonant.
To all those who say, “I’d like him if he wasn’t a Jesus follower”, please consider that he would be the most likely of ANY of the Republicans to respect your views and not attempt to merge God and Govt. He knows that the Constitution addresses the structure of Govt. and not people’s beliefs.
So please stop using that as an excuse to withdraw support. Atheists are a minority and will continue to be so for sometime to come. Respect! Peace out and don’t forget!
RON PAUL 2012!!! Or sooner, please God! lol
SARAH PALIN AND GLENN BECK CAN LICK MY SALTY CHOCOLATE BALLS!!!!
eric cartman – libertarian youth organizer!!!
Jesus Christ (The Lord of all creation).
Ghandi.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
John Lennon.
Ron Paul.
Peace, love and JUSTICE.
LMAO!
I left America 2 years ago and now live in a “Third World Country” where I have more freedoms and rights and NO big brother with their hands in my wallet. My total taxes for the year are $300. It was a tough choice to leave. My family has fought for freedom in America since the French and Indian wars. By the mad men and crooks now run the country. The cops kill innocent people and get off while the people are more interested in Lindsey Lohans latest news. American is an Imperialist nation the likes of England and hated by most countries. Wake up!!
Remember when the tea party first started, about 2 or 3 years ago. If I recall it was mostly grass root Americans who were Democrats or no party affiliation, maybe Independant. They stood for lowering taxes, especially when it comes to wars. It really made sense and it could have caught on like wild fire.
Then the Republicans hi-jacked the whole thing. Seeing the tea parties potential, they made believe it was their idea, and then screwed the whole thing up, making it non-sensical. I hate to say it but it worked, because I ignore all tea party propaganda now.
How can any thinking person put their faith in a man that totally dismissed the truth of 911?
The Illuminati have layer upon layer of deception. Ron Paul is a player just like all the rest. Or maybe its just a coincidence that his wife and daughter belong to Masonic organizations. Maybe its just a coincidence that he employs Masonic hand signs. The highest level of deception of the Illuminati – reserved for the cream of the crop of humans is: tell the truth. Then they have you and you will follow them. But Paul is not going to change anything. If the NWO feared him – he would be dead.
You are so right James! The first use of a Tea Party in this century was by Boston 9/11 Truth and other truth groups in December 2006. Cases of the 9/11 Commission’s propaganda report were dumped into Boston Harbor and other convenient bodies of water, or burned. youtube. com/watch?v=IHhQ71I_fwI Ron Paul latched on to this courting the 9/11 truthers through AJ’s radio show and raised tons of money and then dumped the truth when it became a uncomfortable in the news interviews and debates.
The govern-media duped you with fake cartoon videos of planes hitting WTC.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!
Beck always struck me as being a gatekeeper. My opinion was solidified when he did a number on Debra Medina on the air regarding his question about 9/11, and her reply. Two weeks after that, he went to a fund raiser for Rick Perry in the PETROLEUM Building at a city in Texas. Now Texas has the same old worn, globalist pre-selected candidates, whores for the military/industrial/pharmaceutical/petroleum complex (along with their well-paid attorneys), running again.
Definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
It’s funny reading all of your idiotic comments. Corporations rule, there isn’t any doubt about that, and if you try to argue that the government or big brother or yada yada you are blind. CORPORATIONS BOUGHT THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT YEARS AGO! If you can’t see that BLAHH!! You idiots keep playing party politics or creating a new party that’s even dumber and more ridiculous than the two we currently have. The only thing that is going to fix the problems in America and for middle/poor classes is a massive transformation of our system. AKA revolution, whether it be armed or intellectual…..
Libertarians say they stand for freedom when they stand against reasonable Government regulations.
But Americans had the greatest economic freedom, the greatest middle class, when the top tax rates were 70% to 90% before Ronald Reagan.
Tariffs used to protect American jos and Unions from being sent overseas. Our GDP would be 3.4 percent rather than 1.6 percent last quarter if all the jobs Americans create with their spending were spent on products made in America.
We went from importing 24% of our oil to importing over 65% in the past 40 years.
American dependencey on foriegn energy is one of our biggest national security risks. Even worse now than during the Oil embargo of the 1970′s.
America was the greatest creditor nation but after Ronald Reagans tax cuts and economic deregulation America has become the largest debtor nation with the largest per capita prison population.
Libertarians promise freedom from regulation only to sell you into deregulated corporate slavery and to destroy the middle class.
“Economic Freedom is money in your pocket!” –Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Paul is only stating the obvious here…
ROn Paul lost all credibility with us when he refused to ask for recounts in the New Hampshire election. We spent lots of money but more importantly TIME to put up bumper stickers in our area. handing out literature. waving signs.
During that campaign, there were too many damn “Chiefs” and not enough “Braves”. Because of our participation in that doomed campaign, we now get bombarded by demands to send money to his son (or grandson?) who has another election campaign. He sounds nice and “looks good on paper”; but his run was never serious.
We also get too much junk mail and junk email, from weirdos & crazies, we unfortunately met at various “Ron Paul” gatherings.
Lastly, as to the political party process in America the Beautiful today? The Democrats? The Republicans?
The Democrats are Marxist Collectivists & the Republicans are Fascist Collectivists. In either model, it is always a “Chosen Few” ruling over the “great unwashed” (in THEIR estimation. We wash every day! ha ha ) We oppose & reject collectivism from either extreme of the political spectrum.
The Bard from Avon said it best, in one his more famous plays.
“A Pox Upon BOTH of Your Houses”.
we need out money and TIME to prepare for our own survival.
We’ve written America the Beautiful off as a Grand Experiment, which is soon to dissolve. I weep at this inevitable process.
The New Dark Ages will arrive soon enough.
We just want to try to survive.
Beck and Palin would fit right in with AlQueda and the Taliban. Religious Fanatic MONEY-GRUBBERS. Palin sold her soul for 30 silver DIMES …………………….
Are you kidding me? I listened to Ron Paul and his opinion on illegal immigration. I would never vote for him for President. Read Sarah Palin’s book. She is as real as apple pie and what she did for Alaska she could do for America with the right peoples support. Her watch dog committee cited British Petroleum for their use of substandard materials way before the Gulf Oil mess. This mess is not cleaned up and will be with us for centuries instead of the the three decades Alaska efforts at cleaning up the Valdez took and its after effects.
Remember when she was the darling of the Democrats for going after her own parties corrupt politicians and putting them in jail. Then when she becomes a threat the ethics vilolations started some 300 in all by the Democrats. She spent all her time and half a million defending herself. Wake up Americans. Vote out all the incumbants if they have ever been arrested, have lousy credit, been charged with spousal abuse, had affairs or failed to pay their taxes. I wouldn’t hire any of them if I could not get a good credit rating or a crimianl clearance so why do you vote for them. I am telling you SARAH PALIN is the real deal. She is who she says she is and you know where she stands when she shoots off at the mouth. She isn’t a politician who is always tempering their opinion so as to not lose a vote.
I am just waiting for all these white-middle class folks (and I would be one of them) to lose their jobs, and be unemployed for several months, not able to feed their families, lose their houses, get a serious illness while uninsured. (And this has already happened in my community) All of the sudden, they support government support. Isn’t that funny?
We’ll see how long all those Suburban-driving, soccor-moms support Palin once their husbands lose their jobs, they have to go to work, and they can’t afford their department store lipstick.
If they come to me asking for help, I am going to tell them to ask Beck with his millions and their girlfriend, Palin, with her millions from the money they gave her for speaking engagements and books sales. See the real “love” come forth then.
As a libertarian,Ron Paul is one of the few who understands the constitution of the United States.Tea Party members if you have any common sense like Sara Palin claims,you wouldn’t be listening to her,and Beck.Common sense coming from Sara Palin obviously she is not connecting to meaning of the phrase common sense.That’s scary.
Plant, foney baloney – this is bunk… together we stand, divided the get re-elected… this is a planted article distorting an important message from someone that has been telling truths for years and some people who just want God back in our lives!
Stick to the basics, Freedoms of…
Ignore this diaper fodder.
I agree with the guy wanting to set up the guillotines. Armed revolution is the only option we have left. Even if the republicrats take back the house and senate in nov. nothing will change. perhaps the rush to the NWO will slow down from 100mph to 90mph, but I doubt even that will happen. We have lost control of the US. Massive round-up and deportation of all those bloodsuckers who live off the government is our last best hope. No republican form of government can survive 300+ million people. The ranks must be thinned. Around 200 million is tops for our republican form of government. Actually less than that would be even better.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama & Co.
Vote for Ron Paul? You may as well jerk off. You at least would be accomplishing something.
Well here in Wisconsin, we have started the Constitution Revolution and I am looking for patriots to join me. Here is our anthem
http://robtaylorforsenate.com/?page_id=753
The truth is, at this point any vote for any one of the present candidates is a meaningless vote. Our Government has grown into a monster. It feds upon itself and it’s appitite is unsatable. We are merely fodder and one day, when we are ALL starving and homeless, we will collectively open our eyes and the illusion of God and Country will vanish as rapidly as the American Dream that our parents worked so hard to achieve has. We are ruled by liars, cheats and criminals, and the sad fact is, we keep electing them over and over again. Glen Beck isn’t the answer, he is as crazy as John Brown. Palin is a mouthy, ill-informed, glory seeking, ex(?)-politician who believes that telling someone to shut up is the final answer to all debates. Whatever… We have the best government money can buy and that’s the problem.
Screw Paul. He’s not the leader of the Tea Party either. I don’t care HOW long he’s been preaching what he’s talking about, not only is he a hypocrite on many of his small govt platforms, he now comes across as jealous of power. How dare he claim to be the spirit of the movement – the Paulies (Paul’s Cult) couldn’t even bring themselves to show an HOURS worth of respect as our local event tried to celebrate 8/28. They instead horned in and tried to make it a political rally of shouting at passing cars. That is the Ron Paul movement in a nutshell, liberty, but by their means only!
There is NO leader of the the Tea Party. Claiming to pick heads of it is the first clue you really don’t get it. If you REALLY want to know where the Tea Party really started, it started with an exasperated man on the floor of the Chicago Merchantile Board, who words sparked a flame in the hearts of a few in a few disparate parts of the nation. Those few kindled those sparks into the conflagration we now see. Those few are in places of prominence, but they in no way “lead” the movement. As seen with the Tea Party Express, we are slaves to no king, and Principles only lead us.
Libertarians need to wake up and quickly – adopting this obnoxious hypocrite as your patron saint is only making your end of the movement look foolish. His policies are dangerous and arrogant, and will ultimately lead to a French-or-Bolshevik-style Revolution. You don’t have to look hard to find he’s a false idol.
I support Ron paul but I have never heard Glenn Beck saying he wants more money going to the FED. Also he says either fight to win or get out of the current wars. As for Palin I like her for getting under the skin of the Rats but think she needs to spend a month of Sundays studying the Constitution with Dr. Paul.
I wish Dr. Paul could speak more often and help some of us (Me!) further understand his commentary. Many times he speask over my head and I scramble to find out what he meant.
Hu said that!
Hu wants to knnow!
Hu wants his country back!
How long have these debates been going on. Nothing improves no matter who is elected. Things will continue to get worse. The world is at the brink of a major shift. The current level of corruption cannot be sustained. Even Ron cannot solve these issues. Anyone who says they can restore or solve these problems is a delusional at best. Most people sense we are at the brink but don’t want to admit it because what could be next is so much worse. It is time to get it through your thick skulls. We simply lack the desire and the ingenuity to solve these complex issues.
Have you ever heard a more silly phrase as ‘I want my country back.’ What in the world does this mean? I would love for someone to explain this.
From what do you want your country back?
When was it taken from you?
When did you discover it was gone?
How will you know when you have it back?
The reason I think it is silly is because all Americans have contributed to the mess this country is in. Republicans and Democrats have been elected in the last 50 years to every available office. No one came over and by force took over this country. It is a silly meaningless slogan like a child who yells give me my dolly back.
I think this is the guy who started the New Tea Party! He has the right idea…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA
Is this a joke? Beck doesn’t support VAT tax… and talks ALL the time about how Americans should stick to the constitution.
Oh another thing. Armed revolution = Bosnia. Even the tea party folks can’t agree. Everyone that wants armed revolution wants it for a different reason. Armed camps is what it will disintegrate into. Look the highly educated and wealthy set up this country, not the farmers and workers. To think that the farmers and workers will do any better is also delusional. (Wrestling and racing) Mobs is what the farmers and workers create always have and always will, read history. The educated and wealthy have taken advantage of such mobs to get themselves elected.
Can you imagine your neighbors (some who have a grudge against you) riding in the back of trucks with guns, dictating to you how things are going to be, drooling over your daughter. Now all the venom that you read in anonymous boards like this will be expressed in the open and acted upon by the person writing them as they believe now they have power.
Beware, pretty young girls, blacks, Mexicans, gay, anyone who disagrees, beware of armed revolution. Bosnia forever!
Tea Party was originally started and stands for T.E.A. (taxed enough already) to lobby & support candidates who will not spend, spend, spend (as in Obamacare & Cap & Tax, carbon credits, etc) and thus slam us with more taxes. We have the 10th Amendment and every State should be ratifying it to limit the Federal government’s powers and limit it in size. (The Federal govt is the only one that is hiring and hiring at pretty hefty wages.)
Ron Paul is right about getting back to the Constitution and what our Founding Fathers wanted for this Country!
EVERY American needs to read & re-read the Constitution,the Federalist Papers and the Bill of Rights (not the bill of rights according to Cass Sunstein either!)
Check out the Constitution Party’s platform at constitutionparty.com also.
you fucking idiots didn’t post my comment because it was”OFFENSIVE” but you posted stupid shit like this:
SARAH PALIN AND GLENN BECK CAN LICK MY SALTY CHOCOLATE BALLS!!!!
eric cartman – libertarian youth organizer!!!
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wow you are as sad as the fuckers ron paul is condemning in this article
We cannot restore the country overnight, it will take time and a few elections. Mr. Paul is NOT our leader. WE THE PEOPLE are the leaders and there are many of us. To restore this country will take many steps, we are just beginning. Mr. Beck has pointed to our roots and has reminded us that we have strayed farther off course than originally thought. We are now making some of that course correction. Mr. Beck and Mrs Palin do endorse the constitution and like everyone knows, there are parts there that need restoring and the people will do the restoring. The restoration will happen at many levels and will include personal, local, state and federal governments. We are awakening.
Ron Paul making a statement like this that the TEA PARTY AND RESTORE HONOR ARE THE GROUP IS INSANE. THAT WILL COME TO HURT RON PAUL. WE AS TEA PARTY MEMBERS DO SUPPORT GLEN BECKS RESTORE HONOR AND GETTING BACK TO THE CONSTITUTION. gLEN HAS BEEN GIVING CONSTITUTION LESSONS ON HIS PROGRAM AND WE HAVE LEARNED SOME HISTORY ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION THAT WASN’T TAUGHT IN SCHOOL.
RON RON RUN!!!
The people are waking up and we know you are the right man for the Oval Office!!!
RON PAUL IN 2012 OR SOONER!!!
Ron Paul has NEVER voted to raise taxes, NEVER voted for an unbalanced budget, NEVER voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership, NEVER taken a government paid junket, NEVER voted to increase the power of the executive branch. He voted AGAINST the so called Patriot Act. He voted AGAINST regulating the internet. He voted AGAINST the war in Iraq. He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program. He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. Treasury EVERY YEAR.
There is a reason they call him “ Dr. No” in Congress, he won’t go along with the unconstitutional waste, loss of rights and freedoms, nation building, unconstitutional wars and host of other unconstitutional actions that are contrary to the will of the people yet supported by the majority in the federal government.
Wake up if you haven’t already! Stop worrying about what party a person belongs to and start looking at the person. Judge them by their fruit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA
Ron Paul founded the Tea Party.
Faux news hated him.
Faux new took Tea Party over.
Put Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin in.
Tea Party needs to be reformed and Palin, Beck and Murdock need to be taken out of the picture. I would say send them to prison for treason with the rest of the law breaking hipocrats.
I’ve started a thread on the Tea Party Patriots ning.com site to discuss Ron Paul’s article on the Foreign Policy web site where he recommends a noninterventionist foreign policy of peace and trade to the Tea Party.
Whether you like the man (George W. Bush) or not, most people would agree that raising taxes in a recession is a bad idea. If you’re one of the people who thinks it’s fine because it doesn’t affect you, think again. If you have a job (or even if you don’t) it affects you because it affects people that employ people. One way or the other, everyone pays for a tax hike.
I joined Ron Paul’s “tea Party” back in 2008. Since then the movement has been high jacked by right wing nutt jobs. Beck and Palin should go somewhere else and make thier money. Don’t use this movement for your personal gain or publicity. We need to get back to the origanal concept of the party. And that’s a No party mentality.
I dont see how anyone can disagree with you. Great post and I am looking forward to reading some more of your posts on this blog. I really enjoy your writing style. Thanks p.s did you hear about Obama’s new plan?
There are always 2 sides of the same coin, but I must say, I am learning a lot from your site. Sometimes others have very limited mindset, that’s why they fail to understand the others.
I believe the Ron Paul Tea Party movement was hijacked.
Ron Paul founded the Tea Party.
Faux news hated him.
Faux new took Tea Party over.
Put Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin in.
Tea Party needs to be reformed and Palin, Beck and Murdock need to be taken out of the picture. I would say send them to prison for treason with the rest of the law breaking hipocrats.
Ron is the most honest man in congress.
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